Why are the posters here not interested in the problems created by the BOM and the MHS admin.?

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Don't care
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I didn't graduate anyway
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I hate politics
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I care, but I don't know the problems
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This thread is dead.

Locked down.

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Time will tell

Time will tell if the decision I made was the wrong one. Of course I don't think it's LaLa land but I am sure you have heard the saying "If your not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." I want this site to be part of the solution and if I stand by and just let this site turn into part of the problem than I am as guilty as the person who is posting negative. The person who is being accused of trying to scam people was vindicated when she went through the correct channels and gave back all money that didn't go through the correct channel. I know this because I donated and was refunded my money and was given the option to donate it through the correct channel. She made a mistake, and some people can't just let it die. I am sorry you are Angry as Washington, DC Blitzburgh but don't bypass the built in word filters because that is against the rules.

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Good point Rick...

Rickmyers1981 wrote:
So basically people can scam, present only partial facts, out and out lie, just as long as everyone goes along with it and doesn’t call out the cow crap being dished out.

Kinda reminds me of Pelosi, Obama and the crew.

Congratulations.

I hadn't seen this post you made until AFTER I made mine and it appears we're like-minded since "Pelosi, Obama and the crew" are all "liberal democrats".

C'mon Markus...this isn't baseball where an Ump isn't going to change his decision even when he knows it's wrong (though they do now due to video replays). Point is...you're wrong and you should have the guts to admit it.

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"He drives people away from this siteand counters the mission"??

Oh please Markus that's absurd. If anyone left because of things Unc wrote then you should be glad they did. What do you think this website is...LaLa Land?

Besides, YOU created the sequestered forum called "The Debate Club" and on several occassions when Unc would disagree with someone on your "Lounge" forum you'd move it over to "The Debate Club". I don't recall you ever doing that with Billy-Bob...how's come?

Still, that you created that sequestered forum should not have caused your LaLa Land alumni/whomever to be offended. If they were...too bad. This country used to be a "freedom of speech" country and your decision, along with liberal democrats, is all about CONTROL. Sorry, freedom of speech is not about control and that's exactly what you've done.

I also realize when you say it was "...a hard decision but it is made." means it's "made" far more than being "hard" for you to have done.

I was feeling much better about you Markus but not now...though, unlike you, it won't necessarily be "made" (i.e.; forever).

At the very least you should have a fair, yet different minded group of alumni to make decisions such as this. That way, you'd not be the bad guy and, more importantly, it would be the fair way to handle it.

Shame on you Markus. Right now, for the moment at least, I see you quite similar to Billy-Bob, Halbleib, Hanawalt, Heist and others from VoR. And I hope you appreciate how I've written the above because I'm Angry as Washington, DC.
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WOW,

So basically people can scam, present only partial facts, out and out lie, just as long as everyone goes along with it and doesn’t call out the cow crap being dished out.

Kinda reminds me of Pelosi, Obama and the crew.

Congratulations.

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because

Rickmyers1981 wrote:

So why ban Unc for his outspoken style and opinions?

It was a hard decision but it is made.
He drives people away from this site and counters the mission.

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LOL,

Markus come on, you really can’t ban Unc, I mean he gives as good as he gets, you have to understand that we are from a time at the home when as long as you spoke the truth you defended your position to the end, We were not raised to be PC.

Honestly, there have been far greater offences on here then Unc’s, I don’t believe he ever asked for money to be donated into his own bank account.

So why ban Unc for his outspoken style and opinions?

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Hey, I realize your sensitivity Markus yet would hope, moving forward, you'd toughen up your feelings just a tad bit. After all, you might not like Unc's comments yet he didn't physically or verbally threaten you or your family as others have done to me.

Reconsider your decision please.

You are saying that I banned unc based on feelings and because I am in some way hurt or whatever.
I assure you I put lots of thought into the decision and it wasn't based on feelings. Like I said he was a tumor in the belly of this site and he needed to be removed. That's it. I don't want to go round and round about it. It's already been done and I wouldn't have done it if I was just going to undo it. I already gave him a second chance and he blew it.

Thanks for understanding.

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Permit me to offer a different perspective...

Markus...

While I agree that Unc's comments weren't soft, smooth and very polite; nonetheless, he was being very direct with you. I realize that in today's world of legal and political correctness many people make "soft, smooth and very polite" comments to others that they really don't even mean. As for me, I'd much rather have someone be direct and straight-forward with me even at the risk of comments that aren't very polite. Keep in mind too that Unc is someone, like me, who will dish it out but who can take it too so long as it's truthful and factual.

That said...

While I realize this is your website and you're free to do what you want...please explain. Why no warning to him? Why no "suspension" for a certain period of time? Why did you just "ban" him without any notification? Why didn't you even reply to my message?

Hey, I realize your sensitivity Markus yet would hope, moving forward, you'd toughen up your feelings just a tad bit. After all, you might not like Unc's comments yet he didn't physically or verbally threaten you or your family as others have done to me.

Reconsider your decision please.

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Unc being banned

unclelarry 65 wrote:
Are you a man or a mouse. When asked a legitimate question and you do not answer is sophomoric. Reply with a reason or hide in your minuscule world of fear and shame. Grow a pair of BALLS Murf. I have no respect for a coward and you never earned respect from anyone except the freeloaders who use your site, but would never offer you any assistance if required. Typical Milts using another Milt. That is the ones who graduated which are about half of your members.

Keep your little job at MHS and do as your told. I guess it is only a small sacrifice for you. Your integrity for a job.

This is exactly why he was banned. He is cancer and needed removed.

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???????????

Unc was ban, why?

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Mostly directed to Markus...

Your website is very, very good...as I've said many times though it is a bit complex. I see on the home page that Unc's poll was removed. Why? I realize you apparently didn't like his comments yet I also learned he can't gain access to this website right now. Did you "suspend" him and, if so, how long? Or, did you ban him (forever)?

If so...why Markus...WHY?

I'll not offer any other comments until hearing "...the other side of the story" ,i.e.; yours please.

Thanks...

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I never knew.........

This about the Cherokee Indians until I did a little research.

Fact; The Cherokee Indians were slave-owners, Yes African Slave Owners.

And being displaced (The Trail of Tears) in taking their slaves with them, as Slaves, became one of the first people to take Slavery West of the Mississippi.

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I too was going to post

about their history. First defeated in French and Indian War by the British, then defeated by us in the War of 1812 when they sided with the British. There is a lot more history but I think Ricks and my posts are adequate. Cool

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Yes I would.........

Chris wrote:
an Ojibway man. Do you really want me to into specifics of what founding fathers did to the Native people?

Sorry Chris, but historically the Ojbwe Indians migrated down from Canada thru the Great Lakes region and fought with the French in the French and Indian Wars, and also fought with the British in the War of 1812.

The French and Indian War predated our countries founding, and prior to that the Ojbwe befriended the French and obtained weapons to use against the Soiux and Fox Indians.

So, in reality, The Ojbwe chose to allied themselves with the French to expand their own agenda for territory, then fought with the French against our colonies when they were British, then fought with the British against our newly founded country.

So I hardly think it was our founding fathers who were the aggressors here, it is however true that since 1640, and most likely before, the Ojbwe have been on a campaign of tribal land expansion and genocide not only of white settlers, but also of other Indian tribes.

And given their historic acts of aggression against our fledgling country, displacing their tribe at that time was a needed solution to an enemy that had shown that they would, if given the opportunity, challenge our people and nation again.

The world did the exact same thing to Germany after WW2 in order to ensure the safety of Europe.

So in fact our founding fathers reaction to this tribe was to ensure the colonies, and its people’s safety and survival.

Our Government did not react out of greed, but out of self preservation and with benevolence, after all, they could have reacted as the rest of the world at that time would have by exterminating this tribe as was the solution most used by most expanding countries of that time.

So in fact, the Ojbwe were the aggressors, and in doing so, sealed their own destiny in defeat.

Oh, and to just state Native People, is to ignore the fact that the America's were inhabited by Indian Nations which were made up of tribes that had united for strength against other Indian Nations.

You cannot point to the history of the Nessaminy Indians and lump them in with the Apache, just as you can not dismiss the aggressions of the Ojibwe as a individual tribe, not acting on or behalf of "The Native People."

But out of their own greed.

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Cant Remove

Crying LOL

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Sure...

if you don't mind. I know Ojibway are native indians but don't know much about the history of it all. Still, our country was created by George Washinton, Ben Franklin, etc. folks with the Constitution written by Thomas Jefferson. Again, though not perfect, I'm confident most would agree that what they created was the best country ever in the world of mankind. Problem is, we're now becoming more european.

Thanks...

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I'm married to

an Ojibway man. Do you really want me to into specifics of what founding fathers did to the Native people?

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I take this post

quoted as ignorance.

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because you keep going over and over the same point.
My apologies.
I'll speak out about founding fathers anytime. Most of them were greedy SOB's.

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Please clarify...

I appreciate your apology yet would appreciate some specific clarification about our founding fathers, i.e.; those who led the creation of America and our MHS founder.

There is NO question that no one is perfect and I know some were tough folks yet, bottom line, their creation of independence and the Constitution is generally what it's all about. Same with Mr. Hershey in giving all he earned (hardly "greedy") to needy children which should be adhered to via his Deed of Trust.

"...greedy SOB's"???

Please explain because if you're referring to those on the MHS BOM who make as much as $400,000 plus for their part-time work then I completely agree.

Again, am not knocking you but seeking clarification.

Thanks...Lee

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I took it as yelling

because you keep going over and over the same point.
My apologies.
I'll speak out about founding fathers anytime. Most of them were greedy SOB's.

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Because of today's sensitive world...

Chris wrote:
teaching/educating and beating it over the head.
Granted you graduated before I was born and there's probably a generation gap in our thinking but I choose to tell you to PLEASE STOP YELLING!!!!! Whenever I read what you post I see a man beating his head against a wall. You care and that's fantasic but other people may care also and not post here. You've given the information it's up to others to do with it as they see fit.
Maureen has already answered you reply. Send your concerns to her perhaps she could give you the response you seem to be looking for.

I must begin by asking that you not take this personally Chris, please? So far on this thread there has been no "yelling". I learned something too; that apparently it was Unc who set up the "poll". It's really good that each member apparently has that option. I thought this one could have been set up a bit better by Unc.

Unfortunately, in today's politically/legally correct world, people are afraid to speak out as our founding fathers did which led to the American Revolutionary War. No, I don't think a "war" should take place but I sure do think people should stand up for what they believe is right. If enough people do then change can take place. In the 50's and early 60's people did just that though they didn't need to do it in a "yelling" kind of way. Most people respected one another so when one shared a concern it wasn't taken personally as is what happens nearly all the time today. Then my generation screwed things up with people like Gloria Steinem demanding whacked out things. Because people were so used to fairly discussing things she was able to do so though her side kept whacking away until the group that was most like-minded to her, liberals, took over with Obama et al.

Because most things in life are cyclical, I'm hopeful America, for example, will get back to the country of "In God We Trust"...men wearing the pants in the family...homosexuality being viewed as God notes in the gospel (not that those who are should be ridiculed but that the act itself should be viewed as wrong)...that a broad-based group of people from all professions are elected to local, state and federal government positions rather than 67% of Congress being lawyers.

With respect to MHS, that it be managed according to the Trust and noted history of our benefactor and NOT for professional/personal self-serving reasons. As noted often before, my OPINION is irrelevant...just as all others should be; instead, running MHS as Mr. Hershey set it up to be.

And that Chris, I believe, is why some of us are standing up for what used to be right...and, we believe, still is. Yes, we do get a bit riled up and in some cases we have to...just as our American founding fathers did. I am NOT a BIpartisian. I am partisan to the Constitution concerning our country and the Deed of Trust of our founder, Milton S. Hershey.

Now I realize some or all of the above may be deemed "controversial" whereas back in the days of "tradition" they would not. No, the world was not perfect back then. Racism, for example, was not good though where we made a mistake was causing minorities to rely on the government through "entitlements", rather than doing as Mr. Hershey did for needy children, i.e.; to prepare them for the world of work through various professions which is why we correctly had LOTS of different shops along with business and academician education for those suited as such.

Just as our country needs true leadership, so too does MHS in bringing things not necessarily as they all used to be in all activities, rather, returning the mission of our nation's founding fathers and Mr. Hershey to what they created....a Constitution and Deed of Trust that should be abided by in this and all future generations.

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THIS IS YELLING!!!!

I am not doing that. Your being a non-grad makes it difficult for me to understand where you are coming from. That is my problem and I guess I will have to live with that.

Maureen answered your question, not me or mine. You know the one you forgot you asked.

I started a new thread to answer the election dibocal.

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there's a difference between

teaching/educating and beating it over the head.
Granted you graduated before I was born and there's probably a generation gap in our thinking but I choose to tell you to PLEASE STOP YELLING!!!!! Whenever I read what you post I see a man beating his head against a wall. You care and that's fantasic but other people may care also and not post here. You've given the information it's up to others to do with it as they see fit.
Maureen has already answered you reply. Send your concerns to her perhaps she could give you the response you seem to be looking for.

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I have been censored and/or threatened

to be censored for many of my posts. I had a post taken down b/c I started a second thread on the FYI section. Is was about it being hidden or should I just say hard to find. Look at the poll I posted. 4 people replied. I call Milts and Homeboys alike apathetic and I get ridiculed. I am a big boy and I can handle it. I make a post about 2 female BOD on our MHSAA and no response. MHSAA is suppose to represent you all and they are silent 365 days a year and that bothers no one.

OK, I will give you this site is for comradery and renewing friendships, so why isn't it a good place to teach and educate alumni on what is "REALLY HAPPENING" at our home? I play the warm and fuzzy part and I also play the antagonist part too. I do both b/c I like this site and I care about our home. I have always felt these 2 things should go hand in hand.

Homeboy, Brother and a Milt!!!

class of "65"

PS... 6 people replied and look at the responses. Frightening.

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welcome

welcome

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the mission

Chris wrote:
...furthermore didn't this site originally start so we could connect with our Milt friends and refind friendships that would otherwise be lost?

That's exactly it Chris! Thank you for reiterating the reason for themilt.com

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I'm confused(no jokes please)

Blitzburgh wrote:
Don't take this personally Markus but maybe...just maybe, if issues concerning MHS/BOM were allowed to be publicly discussed rather than segregated on your private Debate Club perhaps more alumni would be informed and involved. Personally, I don't think many would but I do think a few more would which, in my opinion, would be a good thing.

My best to all...

S. Lee Strayer '68
I thought Unc made/posted the new poll and that we've ALWAYS been able to speak freely here. I mean some has to be in Club Risque but we've never been given "rules" except language on what to say or share. The tone used to be happier around here but it's the price we pay when we lose our "cheerleaders". I tried to change it but didn't work.
Posts that people are commenting on are always on the front page,if not it keeps moving down the page the more people are talking about something else.
Why is it Murph's fault and furthermore didn't this site originally start so we could connect with our Milt friends and refind friendships that would otherwise be lost?

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An interesting poll...

Don't take this personally Markus but maybe...just maybe, if issues concerning MHS/BOM were allowed to be publicly discussed rather than segregated on your private Debate Club perhaps more alumni would be informed and involved. Personally, I don't think many would but I do think a few more would which, in my opinion, would be a good thing.

My best to all...

S. Lee Strayer '68

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If interested in over 1000 kids

who left MHS then please read the top post in the FYI section.

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I care

and I know the problems that exist. Cool