Who is DIVORCED?
The national average is 51%. We MILTS and HOMEBOYS might have a higher percentage.
I was married for 23 years and divorced 4 years later. It was not pretty. Still single and loving it. Please post either way and lets see the percentages.
unc
how long have you been out of the Marines?
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So I am standing in line to get sick?
Never mind I been getting nauseous for 30 years
"Marriage is the only war where you get to sleep with the enemy."
So many people view Marriage as a curse or ball and chain, but that is only when the two people lose respect for each other and begin thinking only of themselves. I refer to our marriage as a roller coaster ride, up and down, crazy and fun, but sometimes makes me nausous
Bi polar is another description....high highs and low lows, But it is ours and we love it! I honestly couldn't imagine my life with anyone else, and I would be a mess with out Markus 
...never mind the mess I am with him. He once told me I was all four seasons in one day.....like James Taylor sings. 
that was funny
It's too small though!
you have to admit, you left the door wide open on that one..
Steve, I could not see what you posted. the picture was xouted.
that golf club you're using.... didn't I see you in an advertisement for it?
Why I oughta!!!!
Man, I am really biting my tongue right now, :-]
I love my dogs, but my husband doesn't pee on the floor. lol
Im not sure but I will ask my old house father when we chat,
The place even looks like a haunted house,
Could explain a lot!!!
I love my dogs, but my husband doesn't pee on the floor.
was that the house that Verna Royer was a hiuseparent in?
Have you guys ever heard of the haunted student home, Buena Vista?
The old one that Milton Hershey turned into a student home.
They closed it and burned it down.
I actually have a photo of it, but I have to sign a release before I post it.
I tracked it down for my old house parent who was actually in the home; he said all the stories are true.
He couldn’t wait to get out of that student home.
Maybe because we live our lives that way we assume everyone thinks of marriage as a gift. The truth is marriage is only a gift when you treat it that way otherwise it is just another thing that will eventually be forgotten and misused. The real key is to make sure both people in the marriage reguard it as a gift, that way it gets the full attention it deserves.
And if you can’t find that, then at least find someone who knows how to track on a leash,
This whole dialog started out like this, and I still believe it. I appreciate those who understand what I meant in my original post. Marriage is something special, and I hope everyone experiences the goodness that comes from loving someone that way.
No we don't
Do we really want to go there again?
You are generalizing. "You don't see how you come off to others" what others are you speaking for. You weren't just defending yoourself you did plenty of pointing fingers. Cyndy is a wonderful person with a huge heart. Try to step back and maybe you'll see that.
I'm glad that thread is done.
Um Rick...could you post your Milt pictures here? It's difficult to friend you on Facebook and I think everyone here would like to see them also.
You have no idea,
its like they use to tell my mom at parents week end,
Rick is funny, smart, yet serrious, but when he digs his heals in forget it,
(SEE....... I can be Magnanimous.)
Mr Mac would be proud.
HHHMMM, was it 30 and 30 or 60 and 60 for obstinacy?
Heck, I even had 90 and 90 once. but I digress,
.Sit Steve, Sit, Just hacking on ya,
I'm afraid to even joke, but I couldn't resist...
Why am I not surprised?
This thread is now dead.
Just let me know when home-life arrives and I can get my swats, it is well worth it.
HHHMMM, was it 30 and 30 or 60 and 60 for obstinacy?
Heck, I even had 90 and 90 once. but I digress, .
Sit Steve, Sit, Just hacking on ya,
that's what I about you.
Thread closed.
folks, nothing to see here... please go to your rooms! Seriously, Rick, you are taking her all wrong... In the time I have known her, she is one of nicest and most caring people I have ever met! Please drop this......
Rick my Milt brother and Cyn my Milt sister, Appreciate you both for your sacrifices to our country. Now shake and make nice!! Please!?
You know, I have thought of that.
I started this thread about divorce. Not about the military. Your pride of the Marines and being a Marine is noble, but this isn't the place for that.
Please feel free to start a thread about the Military. I am sure it would be well received.
PS... There is a place in the forum for "MILTS AND THE MILITARY". Try there.
How you come off to others.
And I am not pointing fingers, I am defending a position and my life as it has been to this point.
I know all too well that I am bull headed to a fault,
And if I over stepped, it is in a response to a derogatory statement made against me and or my past, no matter how you tried to dress it up.
I've been trying to "make nice" in my last three posts. I'm done. You're right it's not worth the web space.
Dysfunctional? This isn’t dysfunctional,
My Biological family, NOW THAT IS DySfUnTiOnAL,
As I tell many people, thank god I was raised at the Milt.
this conversation never needed to be negative. You even "quoted" things I've said while I was being nice, to make it look like I was being judgemental. I believe that we would both see a reflection. Careful when you point fingers. I believe I mentioned that if you would even try to get to know me you would find that I am a nice person, not judgemental...really I am not. I don't know you...I don't think I want to because my husband is not a Marine, doesn't want to be really, but you would judge him before you knew him. That's what I get from the previous conversations with you. I don't think I need to keep defending myself to a guy who can take even good things and turn them bad. Even other people on here have said that you often overstepped.
to let this go. I see wrong in both and honestly it is wasting good web site space. Lets drop this. Remember we are brothers and sisters, maybe dysfunctional at times, but we still are.
the reflection in the looking glass........
Just stop throwing stones at glass houses.
But your postings show different.
You can take any of my quotes out of context...but look at yours as well.
I have NO opinion of you, your marriages, your life as a marine, or anything else that you implied that I have also said. In any of my posts...read them all the whole way through...not just what you need to make me look bad. I was giving my opinion, that's it...not judging.
I do respect that you fought valiantly...as a marine, I just didn't like how you "bagged" on the Air Force specifically. In the context of the marriage thing, I believe I was giving my opinion...and you were offended after others commented in agreement with me. I was NOT judging you. I don't know what I have to say to get you to understand, I am not a mean spirited person at all. I don't like confrontation...but I guess you do...because you continue to belittle me...not the other way around.
Here is a reference trail of the things you posted to me, I think you will find that it is you who implied and judged, and yes even called me a liar and that’s to just refer to a few of your charming post to me.
All of the things you wrote are taken directly from your post, I have used the ( ) at the start and end of a section as to reference my dialog as to your actions in said written dialog from you.
And you know, it does show perfectly the differences between the Marines and the air force, even a child of a Marine owns their own sh*t and stands by what they have said and or written.
Obviously you don’t.
-YOU WROTE-
The only person you're fooling is yourself. Marriage is a great GIFT. Hard work, but amazing when you love someone more than yourself. I wouldn't try to change a person, and I wouldn't marry someone who I felt like I needed to change, or that I needed to change for.
(In this post you are assuming you know the details of my Marriages and that I place myself before my spouse. HHHMM Not knowing me, or my wives, or what went on in the Marriages is quite an assumption to make.)
-YOU WROTE-
It seems in your life that women are for lack of better word, "used."
(Again, without knowing the women I have been involved with again you are making quite an assumption.)
-YOU WROTE-
Love is not an emotion. Love is a choice.
(This is your Opinion of Love, what love is, is different to all people.Again it is your opinion.)
-YOU WROTE-
All I know is that your view of marriage is skewed, and that could be from what you've lived through, and what you've seen...
(And again, you are making a judgment based on your opinion which is baseless, without knowing me, you cannot state “All I know is that your view of marriage is skewed” hhhhmmm, you don’t know me, you don’t know my view of Marriage, yet once again you form a definitive opinion.)
-YOU WROTE-
In order to make marriage really work, you have to give more of yourself than you get...which I've already mentioned before is not really a sacrifice, because that is what loving someone more than yourself means. After three failed marriages it just seems like the whole thing is a joke to you.
(And with the above statement I don’t know where to begin, your offering your opinion on what “I” need to do to make a marriage work, and telling me that marriage is a joke to me. So once again you have decided that without even knowing me or my marriages that your opinion of what I need to do, how I should be, and how I view something is, Once again, in your opinion skewed because it is not in line with your view.)
-YOU WROTE-
The conversation regarding the military service and your view of the marines versus other services is also skewed.
(I won’t even bother with the above statement, as you have been told not only by me but by another that Marines are totally different than other services, for oh os many reasons.)
-YOU WROTE-
You took that conversation and made it into this whole ugly thing.
(Who started the negativity? I believe it was you with a personal reference to my marrages, see below.)
-YOU WROTE-
Oh that's right you did mention three marriages. Hmmm, guess the Air Force isn't so bad, and yes he could have been a marine, but he didn't want to.
(we have already gone thru the whole, he would have, he could of thing, point is he didn’t and is not.)
-YOU WROTE-
Nope. Last I checked your analogy of the rivalry between football teams is way off...that it is NOT the way it is in the military.
( Once again you as a spouse of airman are dictating to a member of a totally different branch of the military how their branch of the military views other branches of the military, again, you have no idea of how a Marine views other branches of the military.)
-YOU WROTE-
Maybe in your head it was that way,
(Once again you are making a derogatory statement about what you think I think and how it has to be wrong.)
-YOU WROTE-
but where in real life do our US Service men and women beat the H*LL out of each other???
Nope, I've lived on bases from all branches of service and have friends in all branches of service who RESPECT each other. We do barbeque with each other, we're neighbors, who all have a common goal. Peace and freedom for our country.
(Ok, name once that you lived on base at Lejeune, Penalton, or on a Marine Infantry base in Japan?
And no, Quantico doesn’t count, that is far from being a US Marine Infantry Base. It is what Marine consider a soft base, a school base, a diplomatic base. Not a Grunt Base.)
-YOU WROTE-
You show no respect to any other branch except the marines (although you claim too), and I respect your loyalty, but you are way out of line here. You served a few years in a very respectable way, but you've lost your reality somewhere along the way since then. I pity the desperate recruiter who wanted you after you were injured, and yet, I doubt your story.
(And here you are out and out calling me a liar and are condescending to my service to the country and telling me that I lost my reality along the way, hhhmmmm, not only are you both judgmental and ignorant to the point of disrespecting someone who truly fought on the front lines, was wounded and continued to fight, but you offer your pity to a recruiter who was desparate enough to want a combat vet after he, being I, had served in the Marines, been wounded and was going thru physical rehab for the injuries. So in fact you don’t respect all veterans and wounded vets, just the ones who YOU deem worthy. Oh and once again it is your grand insite into another life that you know nothing about.)
-YOU WROTE-
When we were stationed at the Pentagon from 2001 to 2005, I spent a lot of time at Quanitco, and those gentlemen treated me with the utmost respect because my husband also served, not because he wasn't a Marine.
(Did you ever think that they treated you like a lady because you are female? It had nothing to do with your husband being a airman. There is an old saying about Marines, “Marines treat women very well, but they don’t play well with other men.” Oh and once agin, Quantico is what Marines consider a soft base not a Marine Infantry Base.)
-YOU WROTE-
Sorry, Rick, I've served along side my husband too long to back down on this issue. You certainly have a skewed view of things. I just think you need to get over yourself.
(Once again you are giving me your derogatory opinion on how I need to get over myself, it would seem that you have a lot of derogatory thoughts abotut those who don’t fall lock step with you and your view of the world.)
-YOU WROTE-
Thank you for what you've said. I get that it is a jarhead thing. You guys are a rare, special breed and I get that, and I respect it. I also appreciate what every other service man or woman does, and the value that each mission carries.
(Now above is where it gets a little confusing, in the above statement you are acknowledging that the Marines are a rare and special breed and that you respected that fact. Yet in previous statements you are derogatory and belittling, or is it that your opinion shifts with whom you are involved in a conversation with and or a debate with.)
So, in closing.
Before you pass the blame of disrespect and mean spirited dialog on to the other person, you might want to ensure that there isn’t a trail of documentation for referance.
Becasue with in the above trail lay your true thoughts and views of others who do not bow to your infinite insite into others lives and opinions.
And to pitty a recruiter who would want a wounded combat veteran Marine is truly showing the fact that you believe that those who are airforce POG's and in non-combat roles are far superior to those who preform the high risk missions and have chosen to serve and sacrifice as no other service is willing to.
Or is it that you just can’t believe that a low class Marine could ever reject the opportunity to serve in your illustrious air force.
You really don’t know Marines.
Isn’t it a good thing that I turned that recruiters offer down and didn’t soil the air force carpets with the mud from my Marine Corps boots?
When your done up there let me know, I need a few of your boxes to reach the top shelf over here.
Let me ask you something, with you “Serving next to your husband, and all of your work with battered women, with your wealth of knowledge on life and how others should lead their’s, at the end of the day do you find it difficult to turn the water into wine?
I never assumed to have been through more than anyone else...I believe that was you, and how this whole negativity got started. I was simply offended by your comment in regards to the Air Force not really being a branch of service. I've lived and loved my husband's service to our country, but I would never say he's better than any other branch (to include the marines) like you did. You took that conversation and made it into this whole ugly thing.
More biting remarks, from your own "soap box."
I reserve any water to wine making for Jesus,and while I would like to live my life just like He did, I'm not worthy of that resemblance.
Ouch.
Meanness...did you learn that in the marines too?
You are correct, I don't know you...you don't know me...we've all been "there" and back, we all have different stories, that is one thing we have in common...We're Milts.
I've seen some pretty bad crap, as you have also...but I believe it's what you do with what you've lived through that makes the greatest difference. I can't imagine a guy with your know it all attitude and your biting tongue helping anyone. If you knew me personally, I am sure that you would like me...I am such a friendly, outgoing person...I believe in the good things in life, not that I've had all peaches and cream myself. I love to laugh, I love to help people (a fault my friends will tell you I have, is I rarely say no to a need that I can help).
All I know is that your view of marriage is skewed, and that could be from what you've lived through, and what you've seen...believe me, I've seen much of the same that you mentioned.
In order to make marriage really work, you have to give more of yourself than you get...which I've already mentioned before is not really a sacrifice, because that is what loving someone more than yourself means. After three failed marriages it just seems like the whole thing is a joke to you.
The conversation regarding the military service and your view of the marines versus other services is also skewed. I do stand beside my husband in his service to our country. If he were taken today serving our country, I would have to live the rest of my life with his memory, and I would be proud of him, and proud that I was his wife. So yes, I do serve this country WITH him.
You really don't have to be so mean and biting with your remarks. I'm not on a soap box...
As I agree WE all have our stories.
You are coming on a little strong. We all have our stories. They are who we are.
I am very happy to hear that you work with battered women, as do I.
And I’m sure your wealth of opinions and views will be of great value and help to those who you support.
However you do seem to assume and stand on your soup box a lot.
My Mother was a battered wife, I was an abused child, my uncle killed my father in a fight, and yes, I got to see the whole thing.
So to stand on your soap box and state- You can NOT imagine what I've been through, is assuming a lot, don’t you think.
We are all from the Milt, we all have our stories, never assume that you have had it any harder than another.
Especially when you have no clue of the others life.
There is a good reason I ended up in the Milt. Un-fortunately someone with a wealth of opinions and life experiences didn’t climb down off their soap box long enough to step in.
Maybe if they did they could have talked my Dad into being less abusive, and there for avoided the screaming, the turmoil and beatings.
Who knows Maybe my uncle wouldn’t have killed my dad protecting my mom and I and we would have lived a "Leave it to Beaver Life."
But you know, it just didn’t work that way.
Now, I do not take marriage lightly, I just have seen enough to know everyone doesn’t end up in clover and roses.
If you really knew me you would know that I do not speak of things I have no firsthand experience off.
To do so would only be posting an opinion for the sake of posting and opinion.
Let me ask you something, with you “Serving next to your husband, and all of your work with battered women, with your wealth of knowledge on life and how others should lead their’s, at the end of the day do you find it difficult to turn the water into wine?
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English please.
and then you continued.
I am a proponent of ONE marriage, but I am from divorced parents, both of which married and divorced more than once, and so is my husband. Divorce was not an option for us, ever. I certainly do not judge people who've been divorced. It's just not something I'm going to do. It seems in your life that women are for lack of better word, "used."
Listen...I've lived with a battered woman. My mother. I watched her have her teeth punched out...and I lived with her in a battered women's shelter. You can NOT imagine what I've been through, and THAT is why I don't take marriage lightly. I do, by the way, mentor young women from all walks of life, to include those who are battered.
Love is not an emotion. Love is a choice. I choose to love my husband.
I knew my husband before I married him. I knew him well enough to marry him with confidence and vow that divorce was not an option. Believe me when I say I know that life isn't perfect. I just find it frustrating that marriage is taken so lightly.
You are Never out of the Marines.
And the person who it is titled to knows exactly what it is saying.
Have a Happy Easter.