Going Down The Slippery Slope
It seems in the near future
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that 52% of the American public will pay no taxes and the wealthy will pay more then now, much more. The poor will be given money and services for free and the wealthy will cover the costs since only 48% of the population will foot the bill. We are becoming a welfare state for the lazy derriere people who only want to collect and not work for a living.
Banks are now owned mostly by our government. Our government owns most of the preferred stocks of the biggest banks. Dividends are payed to the preferred stock holders first. That being the government, no one will buy stock in any bank if there is no dividend. This makes our government the sole owners of most large banks in the USA.
Business owners will be asked to foot the bill for more of the free programs given to the poor. They will have no incentive to work hard and to grow their business as it will only be taxed and controlled by the Government. Will the 3 big automakers be taken over by the government too? I wouldn't vote against it. The words Bail out are code words for "taking over".
Immigration will be handled through amnesty and open boarders even though their job market is shrinking. This just adds to the amount of people who will be indebted to the Dem's.
Our security will become less of a priority under this administration. The military budget, The Pentagon budget, the CIA budget and the FBI budget will all be slashed. The disbanding of Homeland Security is happening now. We will not be the protectors of the world or of ourselves. 9/11 will be nothing to what the future holds.
Free programs:
1..health care
2..rebate checks from the government when you payed no taxes
3..increased social services
4..larger food stamp checks
5..utility bill reimbursements. Home heating credits
6..free college education, for what I don't know
7..Affirmative action at its worse
8..home ownership for every American working or not
My conclusion is that the Dem's want this b/c with 52% no having to do anything or pay taxes, they will have a virtual pool of people that will forever be grateful and will vote them into power in every election.
We are becoming a communist/socialist country and we better start shouting now before it is too late.
When will we as Americans realize the government is not our caretaker. They can't control themselves let alone our personal affairs.
Franks, Reid, Dodd, Pelosi, Schummer, and "Our Savior" Obama will destroy us before you know it. We as Americans can't let this happen. A revolution could be in our near future. The Dem's want a weak military so this can not happen, but when the American people start calling for it, LOOK OUT, it will be bloody and merciless.
I know, you all think I am crazy, But I am a realist. You heard it here first.
History teaches us that Democracies don't last forever.
I will always feel bad about stealing no matter whether it is stealing from someone who got their money legitimately or not. That doesn't mean I don't want the government trying to make sure the businesses don't get their money dishonestly...but that isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about the government ignoring how the rich get their money and just taking it from them regardless and giving it to those they decide need it more.
Of course what is happening with this bailout is even more absurd. They are taking the money from the fairly rich and giving it to the extremely rich. How absurd is that?
Now as far as taking a handout from the rich....that again is very different than it being taken from them and handed out. If they are willing to share their wealth that is perfectly acceptable. But they should not have it stolen from them.
I wouldn't feel too bad about "stealing" from the rich, since most of them did some stealing of their own to get what they have. Does the name Bernie Madoff mean anything to you?
Isn't it ironic that the people who work hard and with integrity to get rich seem to be more likely to help the poor than those who simply inherit money? Does the name Milton S. Hershey mean anything to you? Personally, I don't have a problem with the fact that I got a "handout" from him, because without it I could never have had the life I've enjoyed.
Anyway, I don't see how government programs that provide jobs could be described as the "poor stealing from the rich." I know that the image of the lazy, slothful welfare recipient is an important conservative icon, but this does not represent the lifestyle or views of most poor people.
And Unc, once you start collecting more from Social Security than you paid into it, please don't feel conflicted. If, however, you feel guilty about cashing those checks, why not turn the money over to the local food bank?
If poor people are saying stop stealing from the rich that should say something in and of itself. There must be something wrong, and it must be pretty bad if even we notice it.
But besides that. It is wrong for the federal government to take money from the wealthy and give it to the poor. As much as I would like to have more money, I don't want it forced from their hands and placed in to mine.
was a failure in dealing with the depression. Obama is following in his steps at a pace that is greater then FDR'S.
As of today I am a fully retired member of society. I can truthfully say that hard-working is the key. The ability of Americans to "WORK" for their dreams. That is a complete opposite of the Dem's thinking.
Please read the below post. It is a truthful account of how FDR did nothing to improve America and that WWII was the solution.
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
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Excerpted from an essay by Doris Kearns Goodwin:
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"I'll tell you," Franklin Roosevelt once told a friend during the toughest years of his presidency, "at night when I lay my head on my pillow, and it is often pretty late, and I think of the things that have come before me during the day and the decisions that I have made, I say to myself -- well, I have done the best I could and turn over and go to sleep." With this simple story, Roosevelt provides the key to understanding the essence of his presidency, for no factor was more important to his leadership than his absolute confidence in himself and in the American people.
"There's something that he's got," White House aide Harry Hopkins once told Labor Secretary Frances Perkins. "It seems unreasonable at times, but he falls back on something that gives him complete assurance that everything is going to be all right.".....
"I think," Eleanor (Roosevelt) observed, "probably the thing that took most courage in his life was his mastery and his meeting of polio. I never heard him complain." And though anyone remembering how athletic and strong he had been as a young man could not fail to realize what a terrific battle must have gone on within him, "he just accepted it as one of those things that was given you as discipline in life." After his struggle with polio, he seemed less arrogant, less smug, less superficial, more focused, more complex, more interesting. "There had been a plowing up of his nature," Frances Perkins commented. "The man emerged completely warm-hearted, with new humility of spirit and a firmer understanding of philosophical concepts." He had always taken great pleasure in people, but now they become what one historian has called "his vital links to life." Far more intensely than before, he reached out to know them, to understand them, to pick up their emotions, to put himself into their shoes. No longer belonging to his old world in the same way, he came to empathize with the poor and the underprivileged, with people to whom fate had dealt a difficult hand.
What is more, Roosevelt had a remarkable capacity to transmit his internal strength to others, to allow, as White House counsel Sam Rosenman observed, the men and women who came to Washington during the New Deal "to begin to feel it and take part in it, to rejoice in it-- and to return it tenfold by their own confidence." Frances Perkins claimed that "his capacity to inspire and encourage those around him to do tough, confused and practically impossible jobs was without dispute." Like everyone else, she said, she "came away from an interview with the president feeling better not because he had solved any problems," but because he had somehow made her feel more cheerful, more determined, stronger than she had felt when she went into the room. "I have never known a man who gave one a greater sense of security," Eleanor said. "I never heard him say there was a problem that he thought it was impossible for human beings to solve."
So it was in 1933, when in the midst of the worst days of the Depression, that the new President was able to communicate his own strength and assurance to a badly frightened people. In his first inaugural, Collier's magazine reported, the new President did not delude himself as to the difficulties that lay before him, and yet he was serenely confident of the outcome.... Within days of the inauguration, historian William Leuchtenburg noted, "the spirit of the country seemed markedly changed, a feeling of hope had been reborn."......
Closely linked to Roosevelt's confidence was his willingness to try everything. He never seemed to lose his faith that the right solution to a vexing problem would eventually turn up. When he made up his mind to do something, Eleanor said, he did it to the best of his ability, but if it went sour, he simply started in all over again and did something else. He ever spent time repining. "He recognized the difficulties and often said that, while he did not know the answer, he was completely confident that there was an answer and that one had to try until one either found it for himself or got it from someone else."
"I have no expectation of making a hit every time I come to bat," Roosevelt liked to say. "What I seek is the highest possible batting average." His mind was almost always flexible and hospitable to new ideas, the writer John Gunther once observed. "He was one of those persons with the good luck to grow up slowly." Until the end of his days, he was always fresh, youthful in mind and receptive to experiment. "Remember," Eleanor once told a friend, "the nicest men in the world are those who always keep something of the little boy in them." That, she emphasized, was Franklin's strength.
During the Depression Roosevelt tried one economic cure after another--heavy spending, public works, direct relief, the NRA Codes, the Blue Eagle campaigns, regulation of industry, restrictions on spending. "He understood," Garry Wills noted, "the importance of psychology--the people have to have the courage to keep seeking a cure, no matter what the cure is. Those who wanted ideological consistency or even policy coherence, were rightly exasperated with Roosevelt. He switched economic plans as often as he changed treatments for polio." And while the New Deal did not overcome the Depression--it took [World War II] to fully mobilized the economy.
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The criticisms you have leveled against Obama and the dems concerning the economy are essentially the same as those made about FDR back in 1933. Of course, the situation then was even more desperate than what we are facing now, and it certainly took quite some time for our economy to recover. All things considered, I am confident that we will see a return to prosperity--without sacrificing our democratic ideals.
By the way, you should also remember that back in the day, most of the criticism came from the very rich. For the life of me I can't understand why a hard-working, blue collar guy like you would take a position that is counter to your own interests.
Unc,
The criticisms you have leveled against Obama and the dems concerning the economy are essentially the same as those made about FDR back in 1933. Of course, the situation then was even more desperate than what we are facing now, and it certainly took quite some time for our economy to recover. All things considered, I am confident that we will see a return to prosperity--without sacrificing our democratic ideals.
By the way, you should also remember that back in the day, most of the criticism came from the very rich. For the life of me I can't understand why a hard-working, blue collar guy like you would take a position that is counter to your own interests.
The bail outs of the last 5 months have cost us already more then 3 times what the war on terror has cost since 9/11/01. I felt a whole lot safer under Bush's watch then I do now. 10% of the worlds 1 billion Muslims want us "DEAD". So we send Mitchell, a former lobbyist for the Mideast, to go and open talks with Iran, a country who wants Americans and Jews dead. Dialog never hurts, but to show weakness is unforgivable. I think this is showing weakness. Doing this 2 weeks into his presidency.
The stimulus package is chopped full of pork. Where is his campaign pledge to have no pork in any legislation for 1 year.
I will not get into the "Price of Freedom". Chuck knows of this already. He served us well and paid his dues.
PS.... in the 7 years of the war on terror we have spent $648 billion dollars. That is over $200 billion less the the first bail out.
And never mind the trillions we will have wasted in Iraq!
I agree with Keoni on the sovereignty of God....and I agree with Unc about his assessment of our current administration. But it is true, nothing happens apart from God first allowing it and second Him using it for his purpose.
We soon will be paying for every poor person to use abortion as birth control.
Here we go again. Obama just signed an executive order that turns the switch back to the on position for funding of "family planning" 
"When we wake up every morning to a deepening financial crisis, it is an insult to the American people to bail out the abortion industry,"
for your post. I envy your faith, but I do disagree on everything you posted.
I too will not discuss religion or argue the doctrine of Jesus on this thread.
I am merely stating my feelings and beliefs in our current government crisis.
I don't know what your belief system is, but I believe that God is in firm control of what happens - not only in the US, but the whole world.
The book of Daniel says "Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: And he changes the times and the seasons: he removes kings, and sets up kings : he gives wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding." (Daniel 2:20-21)
Since I believe that God is totally sovereign over the world, He is controlling events according to His plan that will see this system that has had us enslaved over the last 2000+ years brought to utter destruction. That is so that His kingdom of righteousness and true justice will replace the corrupt one of man's bondage of other men.
Daniel tells of how God used a king (Nebuchadnezzar) who didn't even know the true God to accomplish his purposes in regards to the rebellious nation of Israel. Just as He used that king of Babylon, so He is still working out His plan to bring all people to the place where they are His friends, no matter what their current relation to Him, even if they are foes.
I don't view you as crazy in the least, but hope that you realize that the present world situation will take much more than even the best and brightest that mankind can produce, to bring about a world where permanent peace and justice prevail. I am persuaded that the kingdom of Christ is the answer. It is not about religion, it is about a person - Jesus is that person.
Remember, I don't want to argue religions - people have been doing that for thousands of years - it doesn't bring any reconciliation. Only Jesus can do that.
Two million people in prison. 90% of them are poor, uneducated and/or illegal immigrants. Madoff hurt the rich and hurt charitable organizations who gave him all their money. The man is the scum of the earth, but still a pimple on the derriere of an elephant.
Isn't it ironic that the people who work hard and with integrity to get rich seem to be more likely to help the poor than those who simply inherit money? Does the name Milton S. Hershey mean anything to you? Personally, I don't have a problem with the fact that I got a "handout" from him, because without it I could never have had the life I've enjoyed.
AMEN
Anyway, I don't see how government programs that provide jobs could be described as the "poor stealing from the rich." I know that the image of the lazy, slothful welfare recipient is an important conservative icon, but this does not represent the lifestyle or views of most poor people.
Here is where we differ. Welfare is our problem. A hand up is good no matter what party you belong to, but hand outs to people who otherwise can work and make a living is our Gibbles112. It is all about the lack of morals, about entitlements, about give aways and we don't want to pay for them. Republicans historically donate much more to charity then Dem's.
And Unc, once you start collecting more from Social Security than you paid into it, please don't feel conflicted. If, however, you feel guilty about cashing those checks, why not turn the money over to the local food bank?
Conflicted, I feel cheated. I have paid into it since 1964 and I will receive no interest on my money b/c of the incompetence of our Fed. Gov. Thank God I can afford to retire. I have no pensions. I invested my own money. It has had its ups and downs, but it is worth 7 x more then what I invested and that is after 9/11 and this current recession.
Just 2 weeks ago I worked (donated my time) on our food bank drive and donated food and money. I am not a church member, but I do donate more then my 10% to charity. When I win big at AC, I have donated 1/2 my winning on many occasions.